Exactly, on both sides of the fence most of the inside guys picked their buddies to help run the departments. Get the feeling that some people on here don't understand how those things went, but then again they have probably not been around but a few years and don't remember. The good ol boy system was strong before merger. There are some really good Majors on our department that take care of their people and let them work, mine being one of them. He is rough around the edges as most of us say,