HA, ok then ask the recruits who have advanced to PO's and which are now officer's!!!!!!!!!! they despise the crap they went thorough, it dont take a rocket scientists to be a police officer with lmpd. It's just training depecting their job title. Honestlyh it dont bother me i'm out in two year's anyway, and glad to get out, this dept is becomming harder and harder to work for. Most everyone would put in 30-35 years as an officer, but now everyone is glad to get out, gee i wonder why.