Placing The Blame

Sounds like you need a new Chief in Louisville. I am a police officer (15 year veteran) and it seems that your Chief is laying blame on uniform patrol officers. That is what a lot of leaders are doing these days. Not taking responsibility of their leadership roles. Does this Chief actually think that the murder rate is up because of Uniform Patrol Officers not patrolling enough. That is just ridiculous and ignorant to say. He needs to look deeper into the situation and possibly at himself. Come on Chief, stop passing the blame.

Lets get more numbers for COMSTAT, that will solve everything!! In my division we are at or below minimums everyday and in between runs the chief wants us to be more proactive? HUG A THUG, HUG A THUG.

tickets,tickets,tickets this will reduce the murder rate. do not be proactive in real police work. this causes complaints, and everyone knows the officer is wrong until proven he is right. but still he/she must be more understanding with the "customers". policing is not a business, people don't go out shopping to become a victim. criminals are not "customers". if white and turner keep preaching this garbage , crime will continue to grow.

Officers need to be more pro-active inbetweeen runs according to White and that will solve all the problems. BS!

He thinks that by getting warm and fuzzy with people we will stop the killings? Santa must have delivered him something to smoke for Christmas. Taking criminals off the street takes dedicated units aggressively going after problem areas and violent offenders not the hit and miss that you get from traffic stops. What he fails to realize is that criminals must be gone after and that the beat cops don't have time in between runs to investigate and get enough people together to address the problem.

What they aren't telling the public is that the Chief and Mayor want a lot of traffic tickets written because the City gets a bounty of $10 for each citation written which is supposed to go to the agency but that Jerry diverts to his pet projects. We are talking millions of dollars. Aparently human life is less important than park benches and granite curbs.

Maybe it's time for the new FOP leadership to step up and let the truth be heard. It appears once again it's members are being attacked, hopefully they will respond. How about it new leaders? I voted for you as did many others, we wanted a change from the cowardly dictatorship that was.

Compstat compstat compstat, no one police officer can be at the right spot all the time to stop a homicide or violent crime. What do they think showing stats is going to solve. Parents need to teach their children right from wrong as you raise them, but if you are dealing drug's and living off the government then how do you expect society to have model citizens. Compstat will not solve anything, letting officer's get out there and do their job and i stress do their job will get the trash off the street. And how the chief wants to track officer's on what they are doing on their down time is crazy. My friend hardly ever get's to sit down and eat lunch or dinner while working, go's from call to call, so when you are responding to call's how is their downtime Cheif White??? And i would not put to much on the officer's because it may backfire on you. The officer's should just all come together and for a month write no ticket's and not get drug's off the street then see how our city will be. Then maybe your chief may just want you to do something and back you and stand by you and actually appreciate the job that you do for him, because what you do reflect's on him, so you can make or brake him. I have never know anyone to get fired for doing nothing ! ! ! Let the officer's do their job then crime will go down.

The numbers are a lie! Abramson and White are in collusion to fool the public into thinking that all is well. All is not well. There have been 81 deaths labled as homicides in Jefferson County this year. Yes I am counting the 2 in Shively and the 2 in J-Town because the last time I checked they were still in Jefferson County. He also is not counting the Police involved shootings. Homicide is the manner of death, whether it is a justified Police shooting, a self defense shooting by a civillian or a flat out murder. Quit lying about the numbers.

As someone pointed out before, you have a smaller chance of being a murder victim in New York City than in Louisville, Kentucky.

When Louisville had a problem in the 90's with 2 years of murders in the low seventies they developed 2 units to aggressively combat the street corner and gang problems. Robert White eliminated both units and reversed all the progress that was made by those units. The years following the implementation of those units the homicide rate dropped to the low forties.

The public should be outraged over this horrible missmanagement of public safety by Abramson and White. I can't wait to see what kind of big fat pay raise White is going to get from his buddy Abramson for his new contract. What a joke, paying someone more money for doing a lousey job.

History shows we can't expect White to accept any of the blame.

These articles appeared in Greensboro's alternative newspaper, "The Rhinoceros Times Greensboro."

Police Dept. Seems To Have New DWI Policy (7/4/02)

by John Hammer, Editor

Since Greensboro Police Chief Robert White was hired, we have received

numerous letters and beeps about White taking care of his friends with

good assignments and jobs and generally playing favorites in the

department. Some of these we have printed, but many we have not because

we had no proof that White does play favorites. Now we do.

It is unfortunate that White placed the temporary inconvenience of his

son over his own reputation for being fair and honest. At least, thats

what White would have us believe. The story White tells is a difficult

one to swallow.

White?s son was stopped because an off-duty police officer observed his

son driving erratically and followed his car until a police officer

arrived to stop the car and check the driver for a possible driving

while impaired arrest. Imagine Sgt. A.A. Moore?s shock when the young

man driving the car handed her a cellular phone and she recognized the

voice on the phone as that of Chief White.

There are a lot of parts of this puzzle that just don?t fit. The main

one is that White maintains that his son was treated like anyone else

who was stopped for a suspected DWI. Add to that the report that when

she pulled him over, Moore reportedly said she smelled beer on White?s

son?s breath. Perhaps the chief needs to get out in the field more. The

standard practice of the Greensboro Police Department after a driver is

pulled over for driving erratically and the officer smells beer on the

driver?s breath is not to sit and wait by the car for the driver?s

parents to come pick him up. No, the standard practice is to administer

some kind of on-site test, either a test of physical dexterity or a

chemical test that measures the amount of alcohol in one?s system.

If there is evidence that the person has been drinking and is impaired,

then they are arrested and taken downtown for a Breathalyzer, the

results of which are admissible as evidence in a court case.

I?ve lived in Greensboro a long time, and I have known a large number

of people to be stopped by police for a variety of reasons, including

suspicion of drunk driving. I have been stopped a number of times

myself. Never has the officer waited with me while my parents came to

pick me up, and I know of no other person in Greensboro who has had

this experience. White said this was not an unusual occurrence, but on

Monday the police department could not provide us with the name of one

other person who has been pulled for suspicion of driving while

impaired, was allowed to wait by the side of the road until their

parents arrived and was then driven home by a parent based on the

parents assurance that their child was not impaired.

There is another part of this that is really troubling, and that is

White?s insistence that his son was not drunk. White has been around

long enough to know that you don?t have to be drunk to get a DWI. I

have seen some folks that walked and talked just fine who blew over the

legal limit, which in North Carolina is .08. For many, men three beers

in an hour would put them over .08, and even the police chief can?t

look at someone or talk to someone and tell whether they would blow a

.06, a .08 or a .10. Everyone?s metabolism is different, and some heavy

drinkers do their jobs every day with an amount of alcohol in their

system that would put other folks under the table.

If White?s son was not impaired by alcohol, why didn?t the police

officer who stopped him simply let him drive home? Why did White have

to come out to his son?s car and drive his son home? Police officers

stop people all the time and don?t give them tickets, simply letting

them continue on their way. In this case, for some reason Moore and

White did not want young White to drive home. Why not?

If White?s son was not impaired and was not going to blow over the

legal limit, why didn?t White insist that at the very least a roadside

test be administered to his son? The most obvious explanation is that

both White and the officer knew that White?s son had been drinking and

nobody really knows what they will blow on the Breathalyzer except

those who have not had anything to drink. White says that his son had

had one beer. Nobody in their right mind is going to tell a police

officer ? even if that police officer happens to be their father (or

perhaps especially if that police officer happens to be their father) ?

that they have just downed a six-pack and are out driving around.

If White?s son had only had one beer, wouldn?t it have been better for

him to go through what everyone else goes through and prove to the

officer that he was not impaired by at least taking a roadside test?

There is the problem with the reason for the traffic stop. The reason

young White was stopped was that an off-duty police officer observed

him driving erratically and followed him until a police officer who was

on duty arrived. So this was a police officer who was not out on patrol

but just out going somewhere and he observed a driver who appeared so

out of control that he decided it was more important to get this driver

off the road than to go wherever he was going.

White?s son said he was driving erratically because he thought he was

being followed, but the police officer who was following him says he

was following White?s son because he was driving erratically. If you

suspect you are being followed, you might pull into a parking lot or

turn down a side street, but it is hard to explain why you would drive

like a drunk.

The truth is that White?s son got special treatment because he is the

son of the police chief. It is not the policy of the Greensboro Police

Department to call the parents of 21-year-old men who are suspected of

driving under the influence and have the parents come take them home

instead of testing the young men and arresting them if there is

evidence that they are drunk.

Maybe it should be the policy of the police department to call the

homes of young people who are suspected of driving under the influence

and have the parents come get them. That way, the entire court process

could be bypassed, and one would hope the parents would take the

opportunity to convince their children that driving after drinking is

not a great idea. If Chief White wants to promote that as the new

policy of the police department, I think it has some real pluses.

Mothers Against Drunk Driving and those other organizations will not be

happy, but if Chief White wants to promote that as his new policy, he

should do so. Certainly an argument can be made for giving young adults

one mistake before clobbering them with jail, the courts, fines and a

mar on their permanent record.

But this is not currently the policy. On June 11 Chief White?s son got

special treatment from the police department because he was the chief?s

son, and that is wrong.

At the very least, White should be reprimanded, and he owes an apology

to the people of Greensboro. It is up to White?s boss, City Manager Ed

Kitchen, to decide what to do about White using his position as police

chief to get his son out of trouble, but if Kitchen doesn?t do

something, it is up to the City Council to demand that some action be

taken to ensure that people who are stopped by police officers are all

treated fairly.

White Blasts Media For Son Stop Coverage

By James Moffat, Staff Writer

Attention being paid to one traffic stop has made Greensboro Police Chief Robert White a little peeved.

White recently blasted local media coverage of his son?s traffic stop

for possible drunk driving, saying it would not be such an issue if it

were anybody else. The chief said coverage from the media has been

blown out of proportion ?just because its an incident involving me and

my kid.?

The chief?s son, Robert White III, 21, was pulled over by Sgt. A.A.

Moore at 2:45 a.m. Tuesday, June 11 after an off-duty police officer

observed him driving erratically on Battleground Avenue. The younger

White then called his father, who came to the scene. Moore didn?t give

the younger White a Breathalyzer test and turned him over to his

father, who drove him home. According to the chief, his son was not

drunk and the officer took the necessary actions.

?I didn?t do anything wrong and my son didn?t do anything wrong. My

actions were not a violation of any laws, city policies or procedures,?

White said Monday. ?I?m not going to stop being a father because I am

police chief.?

Others, though, don?t see eye to eye with the chief on this issue.

Councilmember Sandy Carmany said while she can understand the chief

taking his son?s side on the matter, she doesn?t agree with the way the

incident was handled.

?I would have insisted on that Breathalyzer test, if nothing else, to

clear him,? Carmany said. ?If that Breathalyzer had been done and it

came back negative, there wouldn?t be any discussion.?

Carmany has asked City Manager Ed Kitchen if there will be an inquiry

as to what exactly happened that morning, but has yet to receive an

answer.

According to White, his son was driving down Battleground Avenue when

he noticed a truck following him. The truck was being driven by an

off-duty police officer who called headquarters to report a car driving

erratically. Shortly thereafter, White?s son was pulled over by Moore

and called his father.

The chief then spoke to the officer on his son?s cell phone and told

her to ?handle it any way she would,? White said. According to White,

Moore then told the chief she smelled ?a faint odor of alcohol.? White

drove to the scene and asked Moore if she wanted to conduct a breath

test, but was told there was no Alco-Sensor on the scene. An

Alco-Sensor is a device used to measure the alcohol content of a

person?s breath. According to White, his son was lucid and clear in his

speech and Moore told him there was no probable cause for issuing the

breath test.

Why did the chief go to the scene and drive his son home if there was

no reason for his son not to drive himself? According to the chief,

there is ?a wide range of discretion? in handling such situations. He

said that out of thousands of stops every year, the police ?don?t give

tickets every time.? Even so, that does not explain why he drove his

son home from the stop.

White said his sons ?sure as heck haven?t gotten special attention in

the past? because of his position when they were stopped by police. The

chief said his sons have been pulled over on three separate occasions

and not once has he influenced the police officers? decisions in those

matters. He even said an officer pulled a gun on his eldest son one

time, believing him to be a suspect in a robbery. White said his

actions June 11 were those of any father in the same situation.

?I was a father before I was a police chief and I will be a father after I?m a police chief,? White said. ?Thats my story.?

When asked about the incident, Councilmember Yvonne Johnson said she

doesn?t believe it to be a big deal. She agreed with the chief that if

this situation happened to anyone else, the spotlight wouldn?t be

shining so brightly.

?If this was 25,000 other people, it wouldn?t be in the newspaper,? Johnson said.

But 25,000 other people wouldn?t have gotten the chance to call their

father to come pick them up by the side of the road instead of

downtown. According to White, Greensboro police do not give tickets to

every driver stopped for questioning. Officers can, at their

discretion, have the parents intervene and bring the children home.

But after numerous calls and transfers to different departments, the

police department was unable to provide the name of a single parent who

has received such a call, nor could anyone in the police department

even provide an example of such an instance, except prefaced by ?what

happened to Chief White?s son.?

911 Tapes Tell Tale Of Erratic Driving

By John Hammer, Editor

Since last week, I have talked to Greensboro Police Chief Robert White

and Sgt. A.A. Moore, listened to the 911 tape, and talked to a number

of police officers, ex-law enforcement officers, elected officials and

regular folks about the traffic stop involving Chief White?s son for

suspicion of driving while impaired. (To avoid confusion, Police Chief

Robert White will be referred to as Chief White, and his son will be

referred to as Robert White.)

Chief White maintains that there was nothing unusual about the traffic

stop involving his son except that it involved the son of the police

chief. Sgt. Moore maintains that it was just a normal traffic stop

except that it happened to involve the son of the police chief.

However, even Moore finally had to admit that it was unusual to have a

lieutenant, a sergeant, two police officers, an off-duty officer and

the police chief participating by telephone at a simple traffic stop.

Moore also made some rather strange assertions ? the kinds of

assertions one would expect from someone making excuses. She said that

although she was certain Robert White was not in any way impaired by

alcohol or drugs, she didn?t trust him to drive a couple of blocks home

because his driving had been so erratic and dangerous. She attributed

his erratic and dangerous driving solely to the fact that he was

talking on his cell phone while driving. When asked if she trusted him

to control himself enough to drive a couple of blocks in a safe manner,

she said no ? which is why she thought Chief White should drive him

home.

So you have a young man perfectly lucid and in complete control of his

faculties ? which Moore was able to ascertain by watching the young man

sit in the driver?s seat of the car and hand her his driver?s license ?

but that same lucid, sane and not-impaired-in-any-way young man could

not be trusted to drive a couple of blocks in a residential

neighborhood.

Its tough when you have to explain why your boss?s son didn?t get treated like everyone else.

Both Chief White and Moore maintain that it is not unusual for the

parents of young adults to talk to police officers on the telephone

when their children have been stopped and to come pick their children

up by the side of the road. But neither Moore nor Chief White could

come up with the name of another person who had been involved in such a

traffic stop. We have asked for the name of any person who has had a

similar experience, and the police department has provided us with

none. Moore said she has had parents pick up their young adult children

by the side of the road at traffic stops about once a year during her

14 years as a police officer. She was unable to explain how parents

knew where to pick up their children in the days before cell phones

were ubiquitous or why parents would drive home children who had not

been charged with anything.

Moore also maintained that by looking at young Robert White sitting in

the car, despite the faint odor of alcohol that was overpowered by an

extremely strong scent of cologne, she could determine by the way he

sat and handed her his driver?s license that he was not impaired by

drugs or alcohol. This is despite the fact that he had been followed

from Battleground and Lawndale all the way down Battleground to

Westridge Road and a good ways on Westridge Road by an off-duty police

officer who called in the report and followed the car. The implication

is that the off-duty police officer followed the car only because young

Robert White?s driving was so erratic that she thought it was

imperative to get him off the road. The off-duty police officer

described Robert White as being all over the road, crossing four lanes

of traffic and at one point driving 55 mph in a 35 mph zone. According

to the tape, when she started to follow him he was at Battleground and

Lawndale ?just right in the middle of the road, stopped.?

While she was following him, he pulled into Herbie?s Diner on

Battleground, and at that point the check on the license plate came

back and the police officers all knew that this was the police chief?s

car. The following is a partial transcript of that evening?s radio

communication.

Unidentified Officer: ?Oh, stick with it. Do you realize which Robert White we are talking about here??

Off-Duty Officer: ?Right.?

Moore: ?Well, the address matches. I?m sorry I added myself to the

call. I?m at Friendly and Dolley Madison. I?m going to head to that

address, because I think thats where he?s going, given his DOT.?

Off-Duty Officer: ?Well, he just acted like he is turning left on

Westridge and came across all the lanes. He?s pulling over into the

Harris Teeter. You want me to just go ahead and get out and deal with

it??

Moore: ?Not until I get there. But pull into the parking lot so that he

sees you, and maybe that will keep him still until we can get our cops

up there.?

Despite all of this, Moore said the explanation by Robert White that

his driving was erratic because he was talking on his cell phone

satisfied her that he was not impaired.

It appears that if the police department wants to save a lot of time

and money, they can do away with Alcosensors and roadside tests when

Moore is on duty because she can look at a driver and determine without

any doubt by the way they hand their license to her whether or not they

are impaired by drugs or alcohol. At those ?Booze it and Lose it? road

blocks, Moore could certainly keep traffic moving along at a much

faster pace than it does now, because other officers have to rely on

the roadside sobriety tests and the Alcosensors; Moore doesn?t.

That is somewhat unfair because it isn?t Moore?s fault. She has been

put in a really tough situation by Chief White and is making excuses

for letting Robert White ride home with him instead of at least giving

him a roadside test. Actually, Moore was not the ranking officer at the

scene, so although she said the decision was hers, it may have been

hers based on what she was told by Lt. J.E. Hinson Jr.

The fact that she did not believe it was safe for Robert White to drive

a couple of blocks home shows that at least she was trying to protect

the citizens from an out-of-control driver, but certainly most

21-year-olds who were driving all over the road, speeding, weaving and

driving erratically, would not be allowed to get off without at least

proving that they were not impaired by hopping around on one foot and

touching their nose.

It is also insulting to the police officer who followed Robert White

all the way down Battleground. At one point on the tape, the officer

said she was just driving home but that ?he was so over the road thats

why I came on Dispatch 3.?

Presumably the off-duty officer could have pulled up beside him in the

parking lot and offered him a ride home. But Sgt. Moore, who was on

duty, decided he should be stopped. According to what Chief White said,

when Sgt. Moore approached the car at the traffic stop, Robert White

was talking to Chief White on his cellular telephone and his son handed

the phone to Sgt. Moore.

Moore said that she thought Robert White was speaking to someone else

on the telephone when she approached the car and that she only talked

to Chief White on his son?s telephone later, after she had decided that

there was ?no probable cause? to give Robert White any kind of sobriety

test, or even have him get out of the car.

According to the radio calls right after the traffic stop, someone

said, ?Don?t panic.? That is probably pretty good advice when you have

just pulled over the chief?s son. Then Sgt. Moore got a radio call

telling her to make a telephone call. Someone answered, ?She?s 10-6 on

the phone right now.? That was right after the traffic stop, when Moore

was speaking to someone on the telephone and did not want to be

interrupted. It certainly seems likely that her recollection of that

part of the stop might not be entirely accurate, and she said that it

might not be. But to pull the chief?s son on a traffic stop and then be

handed the telephone with the chief on the other end could change your

perspective.

Moore explained why both she and Lt. Hinson were there by saying, ?When

you know its the chief?s son you want people of rank there.?

It has been reported that the reason young Robert White was not tested

at the scene was that no one at the scene had an Alcosensor. However,

Moore said that the police have about one Alcosensor per squad, and it

is still common to give people a roadside test to determine whether

there is probable cause to arrest them and take them downtown for a

Breathalyzer.

Despite both Chief White and Sgt. Moore maintaining that this was just

your average traffic stop that happened to involve the son of the

police chief, the pieces just don?t add up.

An experienced police officer was so convinced that the driver of the

car was impaired that she was willing to follow him on her own time for

miles down Battleground Avenue.

If this officer had been on duty and had pulled the driver over, you

can bet he would have been required to do a roadside dance to prove he

was not impaired by anything other than his cell phone. Instead, the

officer who did pull the car over was reportedly greeted by the police

chief on the telephone. Sgt. Moore said she had already decided Robert

White was not impaired when she talked to the chief on the telephone.

If that is the case, then that was a snap judgment, judging from the

transcript of the radio calls.

After a week of rummaging around in this issue, it still appears that

the chief?s son received special treatment. Maybe that is to be

expected and maybe that doesn?t bother the city manager or the City

Council, but it sure bothers a bunch of regular folks.

This would be a great place to start a POLICE Department! You guys need to realize that real police work reduces crime but creates complaints and we all know how this guy handles complaints. Perhaps a few Division Majors who have policed at some point in their career would be a benefit....maybe promoting people who know who to police a beat instead of promoting those who can take a test.

I hope all of you remember that when the next awards banquet comes up and the chief and mayor want a photo op with you, that you remember that the other 364 days of the year they continue to hose you at every opportunity.....next time everyone needs to boycott this type of crap to show how we feel about this group.

Is it just me or did the number of murders go down? I'm confused, did someone come back, are there zombies out there, was homicide and the medical examiner wrong and the person wasn't dead? Maybe they are now just counting homicides in the former louisville to make the numbers go down and look better. I don't know but last month the media was saying we were in the 70's and now it's 68. Kinda makes you wonder how the mayor had a budget shortfall with such creative math...oh that's right we're in contract negotiations and he needs to show that there isn't money again. I'm not the smartest man but I know what this is......

Luckily 69% of the homicides have been solved this year. I find it very interesting and true that when the violent crimes task force was hitting it hard the past couple years the Homicide rate was way lower. When there were 75 plus homicides in the early to mid 90's the Board of Alderman (NOT the Mayor or Police Dept) dumped lots of overtime into City Division and the following year after lots of overtime the homicide rates dropped.

Its no big secret, when the Police hit the strrets hard, either in the violent crimes task force or OVERTIME DETAILS were they focus only on violent criminal or constant problem thugs, crime in general, including homicides drop.... With each divison riding with the bare minimum numbers of officer's they have to focus on the hundreds of calls for service each day and are NOT ABLE to hit the thugs, dope dealers and users and repeat criminals.

LMPD needs a minimum of 1400 to 1500 officers....that way when the Mayor keeps us understaffed by 100-150 officers at least we will have the number of officers we should have now of 1200 Officers instead of the bearly 1050 we have. Also if there was not a Sgt for like every 5-6 officers that would help with more coppers on the Street.

We need to do more directed patrol forms. What a waste of time and a joke.

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

HAPPY NEW YEAR!

Pound sand White...you're no cop. You sit in your posh house in Lake Forest while your troops work hard for nothing. You make what 4 officers combined make in a year and what do you do? Get in the front of the camera and bob your head and mumble. You have said over and over that if you have less than 5 years on your opinion doesn't matter. Here's a news flash for you neckbone...finding a guy with 5 years on in patrol is becoming rarer and rarer. So before you go spouting off your useless dribble about whose opinion matters you better take a step back and realize who really controls this department. It's not you or the mayor it's the grunts that can make or break you around here. You want to know what i'm doing every minute of my shift then come ride the beat with me. I guarantee you'll get your block knocked off in less than a week by some thug on the street. Any maybe if we're at our minimums someone will be able to get to you to save your sorry a$$.

Just curious - what was on the video?

AND NOW WE HAVE OUR FIRST HOMICIDE OF 2008. I am sure if the beat officers were doing more to patrol the area they would have known that something was going on inside this residence. They could have busted down the doors and prevented the death and fire. He11, how is the beat officer to know what is going on behind the closed doors????? Lets see if the our legal advisor can tell us that.

you know, one thing that would help is if our majors would grow a set and tell this stupid idiot that all his policing he learned from some college does not work. we have 20 year guys out there that have forgotten more about policing than this guy has ever known or done, but because they refuse to take the sgts test they must not know anything.

i've got it!! i know what all the officers are doing between runs that have caused such a spike in crime. they are most likely off duty. the reason you dont hear the radio dispatching runs is because there are no officers to make them. how many times have you heard the dispatcher call the local c.o. and tell them they are holding runs. or when they call the sgt and tell them they are holding this run and that run with no officers availible or only one clear. how many times have you driven some where and not seen a police car? you can drive all the way thru this city and not see a police car on any given day. it's not because they are lazy, as the cheif implies, or because they dont want to do their jobs. it's because THERE ARE NOT ENOUGH OF THEM OUT THERE! IT'S HARD TO FIGHT CRIME WHEN YOU DONT HAVE ENOUGH POLICE!when they spend all their time making runs there is no time left to patrol. then when they do patrol and do lock someone up, they have to spend at least an hour at the jail! (thats another place that needs improvement) WHITE DOES NOT CARE ABOUT HIS OFFICERS.

Fellow LMPD Officers, try to remember it doesn't matter what Chief is power as long as the Mayor is calling the shots. We will be stuck with Comstat, liars club or whatever you want to call it now and the increasing crime rate until they are both gone.There are several questions that either the FOP or someone in the news media should be asking:

#1 Why are so many officers retiring as soon as they get 20 years on?

#2 If the Chief got a bonus last year for meeting his crime reduction goals will he be giving some of it back this year?

#3 Why are the crime rates going up in Louisville while they are declining in most other places?

#4 Why does the Chief refuse to admit his error regarding the Street Crimes Unit?

#5 What was the crime rate in Greensboro when the Chief left compared to when he got there?

Anyway, as a short timer I wish you all the best. To those of you getting close to retirement hang on just a little longer. To those of you just starting may God bless you and protect you because you are going to need HIS help to survive.

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With the "minimums" in each division always under,why is the fop not making this an officer safety issue?

The Chief wants crime to drop, and is going to be tracking the officer's, Well instead of buying new video cameras to put in the patrol car, which is very expensive and they didnt think of down time at the property room to download the video, it take's up to 45 min to an hour to download video's from traffic stop's, and you have to keep your car running and do nothing but sit there, while other officer's in your district are making run's on your beat and holding run's. They could have kept the old video system with less down time and gave the officer's a raise with all the money they are putting into their camera use. SO CHEIF how do you like paying officer's to do their job while they are sitting in the car downloading their video for almost an hour, that dont seem to be pratical, i would rather be on the beat patrolling and trying to reduce crime on my beat for that hour i'm sitting at the property room.

The problem with the department is that they want the best of both worlds. They want community policing to be a success and also have very high stats, it's not possible. It seems like that new recruits aren't being taught about beat integrity and backing each other up. If you don't back up your fellow brother/sister up no one will.

Does anyone know if White has decided to take that job in chicago, or wherever it was? I am a 24 year old college student trying to finish my associate's degree so i can become a cop, but if i have to work with, i mean for, an idiot like white, maybe i should consider somewhere else. it seems to me like he is asking for miracles from ordinary people. i have never seen a cop walk on water or turn water into wine, so how in the world are they supposed to prevent murders, especially when they are understaffed and underpaid. i think the people of this once great city should SERIOUSLY consider a change in leadership, at several levels of authority.