I'm sorry, did you not just have to sit in front of a computer to post you comment? Or are you one of those do as I say not as I do kind of people? Yes I do agree that Pugh spent a lot of time in Frankfort on the Lodge's behalf. The question would be what was accomplished given the amount of time and expense incurred by the lodge.And of that time how many trips were taken at our expense only to have him not make the meetings because he was hung over or out partying. As for Embry, maybe you don't