Ok, this time I'll be mature about it and respect your assertion. Here is why I dismiss this gang stuff as a bunch of hot air: For starters, if in fact you are right, what difference has there being a gang presence in Louisville made? Crime trends are GENERALLY the same as they have been in the past 40 years. Yeah, I know you are going to point out the obvious uptick in homicides to make your point, but that's why I say "GENERALLY". I get the sense from your posts that you believe the worst is yet