SF was also fond of fondling young boys and had sadistic tendencies nearly as bad as Pavlov. So what's that get you? There really isn't anything wrong with expecting grow ups to act like mature adults. Believe it or not, you can't argue away everything that gets posted. You always have some long haired justification for bad behavior. When in the end, it's just lack of morals, lack of education or lack of self control. I understand it perfectly and I don't have to like it or tolerate it. It's pretty