When did insurance come into it? You are making stuff up as you go along. If you were around when this all started you do realize all along we said that Abramson couldn't be trusted and we will end up paying more unless we are able to sit down and negotiate it. What happened? It started at $30 bucks a month which we had no say in. It went to $60 bucks a month 3 months later ($30 for the car and $30 if you drove it off duty.) 6 months later he raised it to $160 a month. At no time did we have a say