See Spot Run... because nobody is allowed to chase him

Every time the media says anything remotely resembling an accusation of overzealous Policing, you get crap like this. You either get an aggressive department that catches crooks and puts them away or you get a gentle giant that allows things to happen and takes reports afterwards, you can't have both. Either way, I will follow policy and make my retirement. When it boils down to it, my family?s wellbeing comes first. I will do my best to protect the citizens of this community up to the point that puts my job and or freedom at stake, my life is negotiable, that part comes with the badge. If the department institutes this policy, you can bet your butt, I will follow it to the letter. If and when the public gets P.O.ed about it, maybe they will finally take action and do something other than sit on their hands.

From those of us that were not built for speed...Thank You!!!!!!!

Ok, I know Paul touched on this in the artical.

If somebody runs from you and you know thier identity, you get a warrant, you see them, they run, you get a warrant, you see them again, they run again, you get a warrant again,,,,,,,,,,,,,where does it end.

This resembles the time Col. Turner instructed us "overlook" marijuana use during Broadway cruising a a few years ago. You know before it became so bad we had to shut it down completely,,,,,,,,,,Remember that?

CAREFULL

Somehow none of this surpises me. They are probably saying we need to have a policy in order to get accredidation with some group or another so the CHief will have another thing to pad his resume with. it has nothing to do with "officer safety" or actual police work.

These accredidation standards set by ISO, IACP etc... are all a bunch of smoke and mirrors. It is just a bunch of penci pushers trying to make themselves look better. Oooooooh look at what I have done!

Hey Chief can I still use my Segway?

"What are you trained to do? Nothing... "

Please just end it all at once. Make a policy that takes my car (To save gas money). Make a policy that takes all my police powers (To save government from lawsuits). Make a policy that court is not necessary (Already did that). They dont want us going to court anymore because the prosecutors and court staff look at the police like we are the criminal anyway. You get that look like "why are you bothering this poor, lost, misguided soul". PLEASE make a policy that says I dont even need to show up for work. I could care less. Give me my paycheck and I'll stay at home with my family. This county is a JOKE.

LOL! Lots of humor can be poked at yet another riduculous policy.

LMPD BEST COP SAYS "You shodnt b chasin thems babies anyway!"

"Got one running radio..." Heard it a hundred times, police crashing into themselves trying to get there, going the wrong way on a one way street, killing innocent people at 21st & Market, and for what? Most of the time, there's no crime committed, and the hummers y'all put on them, dc (because he caused public alarm while YOU were chasing him). Soooo not worth it. These policies are overdue. "got one running, got one running, got one running...."

I hope those maps the Majors show the Chief look like pincushions. Dots EVERYWHERE. If you do anything other than answer your radio you are an idiot.

Your day should consist of sitting at the district for at least an hour after roll call. Then you have radio pawn off as many reports on TRU as you can while you do nothing. Then you take at least 4 hours to finish the one report you do take. Go eat for an hour. Call off to the division for an hour or two to make sure the one report you took got printed and turned in. Call off on a BS 10-54 for an hour or two and then go get some gas. That should cover about a days work. You get a stat for turning in one report. You are not cluttering up the court system. You still get paid, you don't get sued, the criminals get to stay on the streets so you have another report to take tomorrow, and everyone has a smile.

Gee Beav, ain't this swell! Yeah Gilbert, its like we are "givin' em the business".

LMPD should be disbanded. If the city is too afraid to operate a police department, then it should turn the equipment and buildings over to the Sheriff or KSP.

Why is it that there is nothing the administration does anymore that suprises me? I can't think of a more useless policy unless there is an undrlying motive such as getting rid of 1 man cars and the take home car program which woul nullify this.

I don't really see that happening but with these morins you never know what is really behind it. It sure isn't officer safety/

this is hilarious. if there are any beat cops out there STILL arresting anyone, we need to sit them down for a talk. It would go something like this..."so, Bob, we hear you went to the book. Do you understand the ramifications of what you've done? you placed that citizen in grave danger of getting his feelings hurt in the least- why would you risk your livelihood for a stat? Don't you understand a parking ticket or noise ordinance violation is just as good as your burglary suspect? For goodness sakes man- he could have fought you, and then what? AIR forms, pictures, a letter explaining why you had to fight a criminal resisting arrest, a trip to Uof L hospital to get his boo-boo looked at...now you're gonna get to visit PSU, get a letter or a day's pay, and the burglar is going to sue you on top of it all! Damn it man, STOP POLICING!!! you don't get paid to be the Police anymore!! Jerry doesn't want you to police!"

10.5.15(a) RESTRAINING DEVICES (CALEA 71.2.1)

All persons will be restrained when taken into custody and shall remain restrained during all phases of

transportation unless they don't want to be. Exceptions are if the police harassed citizen complains that the cuffs hurt. When a prisoner is not restrained, the officer should exercise extreme caution in making sure the prisoner's every need is met. The preferred method of restraint is tell the prisoner to stay in the back of the car, if that is okay with said prisoner. Handcuffs should never be tightened enough to effectively secure the person?s wrists. The wrists should be checked for cutting and swelling and the handcuffs loosened, if necessary. Age, sex or physical condition alone, are not the deciding factors in whether or not to restrain an individual. Officers shall consider the nature of a physical or mental disability, sickness or injury and the severity of the offense charged in determining whether restraints shall be applied.

The following should be considered prior to the application of restraints on such prisoners:

? The potential for escape. If escape occurs do not chase on foot or in vehicle.

? The degree of threat posed by the officer as seen by prisoners family members.

? Whether the use of restraints would increase the severity of injury or aggravate an existing

illness or condition. Examples of conditions-don't really want to go to jail, city may have a lawsuit filed against it, and the basic boo hoo clause

Come on now, seriously?!! The Chief needs to get while the gettin' is good. I really don't think he will have a job after Fairy Jerry is gone. This has to be the most rediculous Policy. Someone breaks into my house, police show up w/ "break-in in progress", you better chase them.

What would have happened if the policy was in place last week and the officer showed up and the dude ran? Explain that to the homeowner. I for one would be pissed and would take a dump on the policy in the Chief's office! What a douchebag!

A HIGHLY CONCERNED CITIZEN!

Please don't chase these babies anymore, they are running for good reasons. They are all turning their life around and gunna become veterinarians. Oh, and don't worry about that gun they pointed at you, they wouldn't hurt anyone. It's not their fault they didn't have a daddy growing up....

I've heard it all now. I used to feel safe in this community because we have some of the best officers out there. I have only needed the police very few times in my life, but those few times the officers went above and beyond because it was the right thing to do. Now I can't say I dont blame them for not wanting to do anymore than answer their radio. When my house gets broken into PLEASE chase the guy. And when you catch him, because you will, make sure his head gets in the way of your flashlight several times, cause you will not hurt my feelings one bit!

These policies will never happen. Im keeping the faith

The city lawyers have determined after countless hours of research that chases can be more safely conducted at a walking pace. There is no need to take risks running or driving while pursuing a suspect. This instructional video will be show to all Officers at the next in-service training

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_AErDj17xOo&

If you wanted to be an expert on policing then you should have gone to law school instead of the police academy.

Just to show you that old guys do chase people. Here is a picture of Paco Rivera chasing a suspect from his favorite disco. I think Paco is about to open a can on this boy.

SOME SITES...

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m2194/is_5_69/ai_63016004/

http://www.fulldisclosure.net/Blogs/41.php

IF YOU LOOK AT THE SECOND ARTICLE, IT MAY BE A WAY TO PARK CARS (SEE TWO MAN CARS)...

FROM AUSTIN TEXAS (pd) SOP

General Orders

B103b

Whenever an officer engages in a foot pursuit, a quick but careful risk assesment must take place. Officers must evaluate the risk involved to themselves, other officers and the community versus what would be gained from pursuing the suspect. The purpose of this policy is to facilitate the safe apprehension of a suspect the flees on foot and to reduce the risk of injury to the officer, the suspect and the public.

TRUST ME THERE IS MORE... I JUST DON'R HAVE TIME TO REVIEW THEM ALL TODAY.

PAUL, I WILL ALSO CALL YOU LATER TODAY WITH SOME OTHER INFO

After reviewing the Collingswood article it seems there are some reasonable solutions to this. Don't make a stupid/blanket policy. If you must address it do it in such a way that the officers know it truly is for their safety and not one to restrict them and let criminals get away.

The idea of running in vacant buildings or wooded areas or areas where you lose communication shouldn't have to be made a policy anymore than McDonalds should have to put a warning label on their coffee cups stating it is "hot". Unfortunately we all know that "common sense" isn't really all that common anymore.

If you must have a policy, get rid of the nonsense like"take a warrant if you know who the perp is." Get rid of the only chase for felonies. Instill in the officers that if you get caught up in the heat of the moment and step on the policy a little bit that they are not going to hang you out to dry or try to fire you over it.

Support the mayor's hike and bike. Jerry has downtown covered for this event with about 500 officers. Don't concern yourself that your neighborhood has no coeverage during these events. Don't worry that any of the police will be involved in foot pursuits either because they will be too tired to run after making the runs that 13-15 Officers should be making with onl 5-6 people on the platoon.

I can hear it now... "331 King I have one running....white male....white t shirt...running west on Greenwood from Terry...." Dispatcher-"I need cars to start that way" 330A-"Uh...331KIng what are you chasing him for?"... -----silence---- 331K-"Radio he just jumped a fence and is now north bound towards Ronin Dr"......330A-"Radio...ask 331 King what he is chasing for"... "331Sam to radio I am in the area....have 331King advise last location"....331King ---%#&#@&@* JUMBLED because of 330A trying to ask what he is chasing for again. "331King to radio....".^#%@# Jumbled once again because too many people keying up... Finally 331 King hears 330 asking what he is chasing for and then tells radio he has terminated because is was not a felony and he knows the guys name.

This will be reality if this happens. Who listens to the radio while chasing someone on foot? I know I had a hard time hearing everything being said whenI was running...jumping fences ... and trying to keep the bad guy in sight. This will be a horrible policy for us but a great one for bad guys. If they know that if they run on foot or in a vehicle and we will NOT chase them why would any bad guy stick around. I think this will tie or hands even more and make this community a little bit more unsafe. I wish I knew the motivation behind this policy. I can understand to a degree about chasing someone alone and into a dark building but every now and then as cops we have to stick our noses out in the middle of the Sh*t. Plus...common sense has to come into play occasionally...not a policy that binds us!

Just my opinion....not that it really matters. Stay safe out there.

BP

(Also I am not saying anything bad about the 3rd division...those are just made up car numbers)

OK, in one hand they want stats, but in the other they restrict the ability to get stats. As soon as the criminal gets wind of this policy, and you know who you are as you read this, no one will stay around for d!ck! As far as i'm concerned, my radio transmission will go something like this evertime, "Radio copy on a traffic stop, disregard, one just bailed out. 10-8" On a domestic, as i'm pulling up to the house and see the perp flee, 10-8. Must I KNOW its a felony before chasing, because if not, I won't be running much. And since we, as a department won't be running as much, why do our recruits need to run so much...Running is a thing of the past. To the Krispy Kreme go!

Not to change the subject, but speaking of thugs..... I heard something very disturbing regarding a Sergeant on this dept. whose name sounds like Joanne. I heard that he took his vehicle out of county to his residence and that someone broke into his house and then into his police car that was parked in the garage and took police equipment including a pistol. Sources say that this went unreported for over two weeks until the Sergeant met with a Colonel on the dept. and offered to have his car taken away for 6 months. This was never turned over to PSU like it should have been. Can anyone advise if there is any truth to this rumor. I hope not.

AS OF 09-15-09 1 DOWN TWO TO GO. Just like rats to bail when their CAPTAIN is leaving ship for another job. Ain't life good.