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3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 20th, 2009 @ 10:35PM (15 years ago)

Well it's safe to say we have hit rock bottom and we're digging a hole. I'm hoping some people spent the past 2 months figuring out ways to live without a take home. I guess now we'll see if all those big talkers from the FOP meetings will stick to their guns.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 20th, 2009 @ 10:49PM (15 years ago)

This whole thing makes me sick to my stomach. I like where I am right now but in general I am no where near as proud as I once was to wear a uniform when I first got hired. This has nothing to do with old City/County..it has to do with feeling support from above. I hope this is as low as it is going to get because I am not sure how bad anything lower would be. I guess we could start paying rent to wear the badges they gave us. I dont know about anyone else but when I got hired a take home car was part of the perks. I cannot remember anyone ever telling me that the take home car was a priveledge. Now all of a sudden it is. Funny also how the take home car program no longer exists on any literature we have for trying to draw new hires. You think all our Brothers and Sisters from Detroit were told that driving a car home was not an expected right??? I am sure that was all part of the package offered to them to get them to LMPD. I am finished for now...I am afraid if I continue rambling I will type something I may regret. Good luck to us all as we continue this fight.

WPatterson

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 20th, 2009 @ 11:59PM (15 years ago)

Jerry now thinks that has won and is feeling more like himself. Hopefully there is something positive in the near future. Maybe there will be a investigation conducted on his books and he will be impeached who knows

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 12:33AM (15 years ago)

All right folks,we knew sooner or later that jerry and company would find someone( singular/plural) that would owe them a favor and get this turned over. I hope that people have been preparing for this financialy and if you didn't then shame on you. This is where we find out who is with us and who isn't. I've heard alot of talk lately , mostly from newer guys, that they would rather pay than lose thier takehomes.If that is your decision,then so be it, do what you have to do to support your family but bear in mind, from someone who has been around for a little while,that this will not end here. Jerry, if he wins this by splitting us, wil not stop here. As a matter of history ( from old city govt. and new) is that we are second class citizens who's paychecks are his to tamper with anytime he chooses to meet his own desires. He has sucessfully kept the officers of this department below neighboring cities on average of 9-11% (depending on which city you look at), gotten our medical raised up, brought in leaders who have systematically destroyed cohesion,trust and morale of this department,created a reporting system that " skewers" the numbers to justify any comments being made by the powers that be,to lul the public into a false sense of security and belief that they actually know what is going on in this town. The fire department has been getting screwed for over 17 years that I've been here ( not the 5 years or 6 that the media report ) and has cost this city millions in costs, and lawyer fees which I'm sure haven't even been calculated ( which by the way is being handled by a private firm wyatt,tarrent and combs instead of city lawyers...the actual lawyers are wyrick,buckler and hopson).

He will never stop and it will be you younger guys who will suffer.Make your stand now while you can and put a stop to this. you joined the F.O.P. union for a reason, and that means being united against a common enemy whether it means a small sacrifice now will ultimately reap higher rewards later. I can't stress enough that you don't know this guy,if he sees the slightest weakness in our unity he will go for the kill and you will be the ones to suffer the most.

If you decide to keep your cars and pay this "ransom", that is your choice. You do what you have to to support your family.But should the F.O.P.vote to turn in the cars and you go against the vote, please resign your active membership from the fop, you will stil be covered in contract negotiations,etc.. so dont worry about that.. but we need to know who is really union and who is just in it for what it can do for them. We wil prevail............Capt Ahab....AAAAAAAAARRRGGGGGGGGHHHHHHH

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 10:09AM (15 years ago)

Don't everybody panic, let's regroup, reload, and let him know that he has finally "awoken a sleeping giant". Let's never quit until he is gone.

oh how the worm turns

January 21st, 2009 @ 10:22AM (15 years ago)

As Alanis Morrisette once asked in song, Isn't it ironic?

When the judges delayed the proposed fee, you all were all over here congradulating each other and thanking the judge for "doing the right thing." It was championed as a righteous execution of the judicial system.

Since that decision has been overturned, somehow justice is no longer at work, and has instead delved into the seedy underworld of favors owed and or illicit behavior.

Blue uniforms and red faces, makes for purple, just like sour grapes!

I look forward to making this thread the longest yet, and the renewed utterance of threats for my wellbeing.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 11:15AM (15 years ago)

I'm not a police officer, however; I completely support the police department on this and other issues. I did not vote for the mayor. He has never supported our local police departments and firefighters. (Which I have in my family) Let's take money from the Waterfront Projects and our new arena and give to our law enforcement. I just wanted to let you know that I'm one citizen who supports your efforts. Thank you for your commitment and for keeping us safe.

Redsmom

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 12:57PM (15 years ago)

So. 3 Judges on the appelate court not familiar with the entire story have decided that it is about money and that we didn't have an argument because we didn't challenge the earlier fee. Did you not understand that we did chellenge those fees and in February we have a Department of Labor hearing over the original fees?

You stated it is about money. Indeed it is. It is about Jerry Abramson stealing money from workers. It is baout Jerry Abramson stealing money and trying to charge the employees of Metro Government for the privelege of coming to work.

It is about Robert White being a spinless yes man that cannot support his own Officers.

There are a lot of things this is about and maybe the Circuit Court Judges around here can see it a little more clearly than 3 Judges without a stake in the game from other parts of Kentucky.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 1:08PM (15 years ago)

I am still confident that the labor board will agree with us on this issue. It isn't about the money as much as it is about the continued attempts by Abramson to abrogate our contract.

He is wrong and whats more is everyone can see that he is crooked and is trying to screw the Police Officers. If this was about everyone pitching in and helping out in a time of need then everyone would be on board. It isn't though. It is about him trying to screw with us because we embarass him publicly with truthful reports of his lies and failed decisions.

If this was about evey employee pitching in then every employee would be paying the same amount. Abramson wants me to pay over $2000 and the civilian in my office $500. Doesn't seem fair to me, but then it isn't about being fair with him.

I was very proud of the statement John McGuire made in the paper. This issue is about whether or not abramson can make changes to our wages, hours or working conditions which is against our collective bargaining agreement and State Law 15.520.

Truck drivers

January 21st, 2009 @ 4:28PM (15 years ago)

I cannot believe that drug addicts are allowed to post on this site...Someone who bullies average citizens with his big rig on the streets tries to post here and make you all mad. Look at the source. Truck Drivers are responsible for many many many fatalities on our roads. (he doesn't like talking about that) I have never seen a truck driver not under the influence of something. They go days without sleep for employers and risk my and my families lives driving giant death mobiles. They no nothing of fightng for a cause or unity. He is not a Union man. This person always talks of corruption and yet the line of work he's in is borderline illegal. because police enforce the laws so people like him cannot run us down for not driving fast enough for him, he is constantly trying to stir you all up. I wish you would check in to rehab or get your disorder looked at.

Security Guard

Kool Aid

January 21st, 2009 @ 4:36PM (15 years ago)

Tastes great can't wait

VELCRO LIFT

January 21st, 2009 @ 4:41PM (15 years ago)

P-REVIOUS RULINGS IN OUR FAVOR=2

A-GAINST US=1

R-AISING FEES WILL IRREPARABLY HARM US AND THE CITIZENS

K-EEPING THE CARS WILL CAUSE A SPLIT

E-VERYONE MUST STICK TOGETHER ON THIS

M-AKE A DECISION AND STAND BEHIND ONE ANOTHER

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 21st, 2009 @ 4:48PM (15 years ago)

seems like milburn said i aint paying he 100/160.....he's retiring this month......he's showing the front office!!!!!

wtg Rod......maybe troy will go next lol

Increased Fee email just came out

January 22nd, 2009 @ 10:26AM (15 years ago)

The email just came out announcing the increased fees, to be implemented in February, with pay for that month being deducted (retroactively) in March.

FYI

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 11:03AM (15 years ago)

If a slow down won't work, what about a speed up? Right EVERYTHING to everyone? Being poplite and aplogetic of couse, and explain revunue shortfalls...?

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 11:21AM (15 years ago)

well, didn't take long for Jerry to free up some of that rainy day fund money to pay off some judges and get rid of a just and rightful injunction. I have not been told that I must make a decision on whether or not I will accept increased car "rental" fees yet. If I am charged higher fees without being told, in writing, about the higher fees, and given a chance to opt out - there will be quite a bit of hell raised by a lot of ******** of indians. I expect them to take out 160 bucks from our checks without saying a thing in February.

Why is everyone getting all riled up about these "trucker/worm" characters. they are idiots, don't acknowlegde their existence and qualify their input. ignore and block the IP addresses. It's like arguing with a suicidal detoxing crackhead that just drank a 5th of cuervo and thinks you stole his imaginary dog named 'giddit' - NO POINT IN IT. and no, I do not believe anyone threatened anyone, but I wouldn't have blamed them.

remain unified

Kickbacks

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 2:12PM (15 years ago)

Anyone catch king jer on whas news today? He stated that the rank and file officers are for him imposing the fee and it is just basically the fop leadership who is being the trouble. He actually stated that officers are coming up to him and saying they agree with him and are all for it. How does he get away with telling such blatant lies and not getting called on it? The news lady interviewing him must be looking for a new job along side kerri richardson.

Of course he again brought up how the city employees all need skin in the game, but again failed to mention he asking us to put a lot more in than the other employees and also failed to mention why all city citizens don't need skin in the game, just us fools who work for the city. Him and the chief can not leave soon enough.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 3:11PM (15 years ago)

The individual that is posting comments on this site (truck driver, worm) is probably one of King Jerrys people's. There is no reason why to get mad at his statements that he post on here because they don't mean anything. He's probably one of King Jerrys boys who is being paid too much, just look how much time he has spent on this website. If he was a hard worker he'd be a work doing something other than reading these comments on this website and responding to them. He could even be King Jerry himself we all know that he doesn't do anything anyways other than find ways to steal the city money and spend it as he see fit. This person that is getting everyone in a uproar has no real reason to be on this website, thats why he probably works in the major office also look how determined he or she is to be heard. This person's IP address was blocked once so they go to another computer in there building (city hall) and still respond. If I'm wrong then I'm wrong and its just someone who has nothing better to do with their time other than to make a debate with upset hard working Police Officers who are getting screwed by King Jerry along with all other city employee's.

A fellow Police Officer

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 3:34PM (15 years ago)

Jerry you still on here messing with these hard working city employees pretending to be a truck driver or a worm. Don't you have some new project to create, since now you finally found someone who will side with you (actually 3 of them). How about a galleria on the river or something that you can build and we can just get rid of all non important city employees to cover the bill of this project. You all have all this new money that the police department is paying how about getting them discount to what ever project to have lined up next.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 4:01PM (15 years ago)

Just glad to see that POS Milburn finally leave, he's never done nothing but turn on his brothers in uniform, Hey Rod, why don't you take your buddies Riggs, Green and a few others with you. I'm just glad to see you gone, traitor.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 4:25PM (15 years ago)

How much money has the city been saving these past couple of months since the cost of gas has gone down? Maybe the city should see how much of the gas savings can be applied to there debt! For the record I say stand up with your FOP and park the cars and see what that does to stats and response times. Sorry I forgot the mayor doesn't care about crime stats he makes them lower ever year.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 7:05PM (15 years ago)

Riggs is just being groomed for his next position. ******** up. --- Think the chief ever wants to know what it's like to be a real police officer. Since he has done nothing but sit behind a desk his whole career. Thank god he has never had to put his life on the line. Think he will be paying for HIS take home car to the east end. It's good to be the king.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 22nd, 2009 @ 8:16PM (15 years ago)

Rigg's hid behind his aunt all of his career.

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 26th, 2009 @ 1:57PM (15 years ago)

As a tax paying citizen of the City of Louisville I am appalled that the Mayor would even suggest charging officers a fee!!!! The salary that they are paid is far from above average! The price that they pay putting their lives on the line DAILY is more than most any of us would pay and then to ask them to pay the Mayor in order to drive these vehicles homes is ridiculous!! It is a service to us citizens to have those vehicles parked in our neighborhoods and I would like the Mayor to consider that!! It is proven that the presence of that vehicle deters crime!!!!! Is the Mayor paying for his vehicle? Anyway, his salary is more so I'm sure if he is he can afford it. THIS IS A CRIME!!!!!!!

3 Judge Panel Lifts Injunction Against City

January 29th, 2009 @ 9:59PM (15 years ago)

I sure hope we win our Insurance grievance....Humana has already denied one of my prescriptions that Anthem always paid.....HUMANA SUCKS!!!!!