You know waht got me was that Keeling just didn't get the fact that most of the people in the room weren't there to support him. John made it clear when he found out about this debate that he had a class and couldn't get oout of it. He stayed as long as he could and when he had to leave, half of the people went with him when they found out that Bill and his buddy David James were going to continue the debate without him. They didn't look around the room, because it was obvious that he wasn't in