There is no overtime for working with the Explorers. The Explorers are taken to Nationals (out of town) every two years. There is no overtime allowed for the trip. Anytime you work with the Explorers (every 2nd and 4th Monday night meetings at Taylor) it is on your own time. If you don't believe me, start helping out at the meetings. Kenny gets his overtime elsewhere.....EX. Highway safety, Health and safety stuff etc....